Save-Point
What's on your mind? - Printable Version

+- Save-Point (https://www.save-point.org)
+-- Forum: Official Area (https://www.save-point.org/forum-3.html)
+--- Forum: General Chat (https://www.save-point.org/forum-13.html)
+--- Thread: What's on your mind? (/thread-2182.html)

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440


RE: What's on your mind? - KDC - 12-01-2017

December 1st. What bad news and politics news am I going to hear on TV and the Internet today...? Hopefully none.


RE: What's on your mind? - JayRay - 12-01-2017

(12-01-2017, 05:52 PM)KDC Wrote: December 1st. What bad news and politics news am I going to hear on TV and the Internet today...? Hopefully none.
Well, they expect Flynn to plead Guilty to giving false information during the FBI investigation.... and well Donald already pardoned ONE turkey so... hmmm...


RE: What's on your mind? - JayRay - 12-01-2017

Here's what's on my mind...

Here I am battling the cold, I've got Sore Throat Lozenges, Halls Cough drops, Allergy pills (for the Diphenhydramine) and a big roll of TP at my desk.... and they decide TODAY they'd give everyone ice cream floats... I can't have milk products right now because of that whole mucus stuffy head stuff, but that's NOT fair! I want Root Bear Floats! I want Orange Cream Soda Floats! I want Dr.Pepper Floats! GRRRR!


RE: What's on your mind? - Ahzoh - 12-02-2017

I've progressed on the map:
[Image: landahama.png]


My other conlang Ngucamic indicates plurality through gemination (doubling) of consonants (and as such, they are pronounced doubly as long):

city - m̃ók [ŋ͡mɔ́k]
cities - ā m̃m̃ók [aː ŋ͡mɡ͡bɔ́k]

ocean - ṭzíkg [t͡sˤík͡x]
oceans - ā ṭṭzíkg [aː t͡ːsˤík͡x]

river - cȁm [qàːm]
rivers - ā ccȁm [aː qːàːm]

word - pȁkga̋ [pàːk͡xáː]
words - ā ppȁkga̋ [aː pːàːk͡xáː]

The morpheme (basic unit of grammatical meaning) ā is often dropped in casual speech.


RE: What's on your mind? - kyonides - 12-02-2017

That a really does look more like an article to indicate plurality than just a basic morpheme that shows up every other day in speech or writing. For some reason I ended up hating articles, they seem pointless if your nouns and adjectives do have a clear way to denote their declination or plurality. Well, I'm also looking for ways to avoid using prepositions as much as possible, but sometimes it gets hard to display the slight differences between going to some new location and beginning to walk away from a specific point.

Does that map belong to a single concountry? Or does it reflect the existence of several city states?


RE: What's on your mind? - Ahzoh - 12-03-2017

(12-02-2017, 11:35 PM)kyonides Wrote: That a really does look more like an article to indicate plurality than just a basic morpheme that shows up every other day in speech or writing. For some reason I ended up hating articles, they seem pointless if your nouns and adjectives do have a clear way to denote their declination or plurality.
Articles only indicate definiteness or indefiniteness, of which ā does neither. The morpheme ā is a different particle. But it only exists in formal writing and speech and lost elsewhere. It comes from a particle āp of which the p assimilated to certain adjacent consonants while the unassimilated version of it is lost, rather like this:
Quote:Development of initial geminates in certain syntactic contexts due to word-initial mutations resulting from sandhi effects:

ad kasa > ak‿kasa
ad > a
ak‿kasa now reanalyzed as a kkasa

Then musu, coined centuries after a lost its final /d/, becomes mmusu after a because it's a regular morphosyntactic process now

(12-02-2017, 11:35 PM)kyonides Wrote: Well, I'm also looking for ways to avoid using prepositions as much as possible, but sometimes it gets hard to display the slight differences between going to some new location and beginning to walk away from a specific point.
Prepositions (or post positions) are necessary, but some can be expressed in cases:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grammatical_cases
But you can't add too many of them, as that is kitchen-sinky and very unlikely cross-linguistically. Cases also come into existence based on a hierarchy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Case_hierarchy
Some can also be expressed as verbs-of-direction such as "to go in/enter" and "to go out/exit" or "to go towards/arrive" and "to go away/leave".

You might also want to look into deciding whether your language is head-initial, head-final, or a mix of both:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head-directionality_parameter

(12-02-2017, 11:35 PM)kyonides Wrote: Does that map belong to a single concountry? Or does it reflect the existence of several city states?
The names in black on the map are all nations spanning a small section of continent. the blue names are their capitals.
The one important thing I've learned about rivers is that they can combine into a bigger river, but can they NEVER split.


RE: What's on your mind? - kyonides - 12-03-2017

Can we forumers invade it and fill our coffers with all the treasures we find there and leave them hopeless? :P

The kes particle in my conlang has changed its uses during the course of its development, or should I say the story of my conworld instead?

Why do your coninhabitants add up the second consonant or character at the beginning? I mean, it sure makes it harder to pronounce it to make clear it's a plural form of the term in cases like mm or so. Isn't there any exceptions to the rule? (No double initial letter but another kind of affix perhaps.)


RE: What's on your mind? - Ahzoh - 12-03-2017

(12-03-2017, 06:27 AM)kyonides Wrote: Can we forumers invade it and fill our coffers with all the treasures we find there and leave them hopeless? :P

The kes particle in my conlang has changed its uses during the course of its development, or should I say the story of my conworld instead?

Why do your coninhabitants add up the second consonant or character at the beginning? I mean, it sure makes it harder to pronounce it to make clear it's a plural form of the term in cases like mm or so. Isn't there any exceptions to the rule? (No double initial letter but another kind of affix perhaps.)

Well, they'd have their own writing system, but this doubling up of consonants indicates the consonant is pronounced twice as long, just as a double vowel indicates the vowel is produced twice as long.
It takes training to tell a "short m" from a "long m", although in this language, the second "m" would become a "b".
The language also has this funny consonant, "m̃", that sounds like this:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Labial-velar_nasal_stop.ogg
The only exceptions are words that begin with vowels, because they have no consonants.


RE: What's on your mind? - DerVVulfman - 12-06-2017

I just received the following notice from AOL:


Quote:Dear dervvulfman,

Over the years, AOL has provided you with an unparalleled online experience—mail, browsing, content and more. Our team has worked to ensure that you have advanced technology, while keeping the experience fun and easy to use.

In 35 days, all older versions of the AOL Desktop will expire. Access to your current version will be discontinued at that time.

We’re mailing you a CD-ROM with everything you need to ensure a smooth transition, so please keep an eye on your mailbox. As soon as the CD arrives, use it to install the new software to avoid potential service interruption. If you use dial-up to connect to the internet, the CD will help save time installing the software—you won’t want to miss it.

Thank you for being a valued member.

Sincerely,
AOL Member Services

Hrm...   Could they at least capitalize my name right?


Quote:If you use dial-up to connect to the internet,....
Hehehe... Damn right I do!  Dialup saved the forum!

ODDLY... this is my secondary account where I received the eMail. I use this one more often because of the cool username.  The account I made when I first signed up (my primary) never received the eMail.


RE: What's on your mind? - kyonides - 12-07-2017

I have recently posted a new chapter of my story Black Collars entitled Second Prison. This time we will learn what are the latest consequences of being Fake Windy's hostage and how Patrick Bodkin tries to deal with his lame situation.

I also wanna complain about how police officers in my country look like real goofs, there was one that fired at a tire to prevent a so called suspect from escaping by driving off. Do you guess what happened next? The suspects complained about excessive use of force! The officer's superiors opened an investigation to confirm if he fired his gun and put third parties in danger. It is probable he will get suspended or even fired! It looks like criminals here have more rights and permissions than the average citizen or even cops!

This is a short enumeration of poems I've written in the past few days, Some Sudden Reminder, Modern Treasure Chests, About Pills and Voices, My Friends' Lovely Presents and Your Trustworthy Salesman.